Comments on: When Software Development is (or is not) a Democratic Process http://www.ome-b.nl/2010/01/31/when-software-development-is-or-is-not-a-democratic-process/ Creative Software Development Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:24:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Douwe Pieter van den Bos http://www.ome-b.nl/2010/01/31/when-software-development-is-or-is-not-a-democratic-process/comment-page-1/#comment-79 Douwe Pieter van den Bos Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:16:30 +0000 http://www.ome-b.nl/?p=494#comment-79 Thanks for your comment on this, quanticle. For me, I live in The Netherlands, so I can't debate with you on the 'healthcare' issue, although I would like to. I just don't have enough insights and background information about this. I really do think that we mean the same. But: isn't it so that parlaiments need to make sure they won't be eliminated in the next rounds of layoffs? (e.g. the next electorial voting?) Just a thought... And of course: we, as developers, need to create what the customer want. In this equation the customer, or end user, is the civilian. What I meant was not to listen to everybody in the development / IT part of an organisation. They are not the customer.... (Excuses for my bad English by the way, hope I still make sence...) Regards, Douwe Pieter Thanks for your comment on this, quanticle.

For me, I live in The Netherlands, so I can’t debate with you on the ‘healthcare’ issue, although I would like to. I just don’t have enough insights and background information about this.

I really do think that we mean the same.

But: isn’t it so that parlaiments need to make sure they won’t be eliminated in the next rounds of layoffs? (e.g. the next electorial voting?)

Just a thought…

And of course: we, as developers, need to create what the customer want. In this equation the customer, or end user, is the civilian. What I meant was not to listen to everybody in the development / IT part of an organisation. They are not the customer….

(Excuses for my bad English by the way, hope I still make sence…)

Regards,

Douwe Pieter

]]> By: quanticle http://www.ome-b.nl/2010/01/31/when-software-development-is-or-is-not-a-democratic-process/comment-page-1/#comment-69 quanticle Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:43:34 +0000 http://www.ome-b.nl/?p=494#comment-69 The key difference between a programming team and a parliament is that the parliament has the ability to impose its solution on the public. Even then things turn ugly more often than not - look at the current debate on health care reform, for example. A programming team has even less power - if they don't compromise, their customers (the rest of the organization) will simply reject their solution, and their positions will be eliminated in the next round of layoffs. The key difference between a programming team and a parliament is that the parliament has the ability to impose its solution on the public. Even then things turn ugly more often than not – look at the current debate on health care reform, for example.

A programming team has even less power – if they don’t compromise, their customers (the rest of the organization) will simply reject their solution, and their positions will be eliminated in the next round of layoffs.

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